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Right.

>> It's called the order of the June 16th

meeting of the Madison County Board of

Commissioners. My name is Chris Rowland.

Would everyone please introduce

themselves for the record?

>> Tony Sidinikas.

>> Brendan Shay.

>> Rob Sawyers, County Administrator.

>> Nick Atkins, Vice Chair.

>> Tom Sweeney, County Executive,

>> Robert Dudgeon.

>> Dan Weaver.

>> Kathleen Twomey, Assistant County

>> Amy Reese, Clerk.

>> Tim Walts, Legislator.

>> You have received a copy of last week's

meeting minutes.

>> Move to approve the minutes and dispense

with their reading.

>> Second.

>> The person who seconded, any other

discussion?

Any discussion? I don't think there was.

Copy to sign.

>> Two one.

>> Roll call please.

>> Mr. Shay.

>> Yes.

>> Dr. Sidinikas.

>> Yes.

>> Mr. Walts.

>> Yes.

>> Roll call please.

>> Mr. Shay. Yes.

>> Dr. Sidinikas.

>> Yes.

>> Chair.

>> Good morning.

You guys have a wonderful uh week. Sorry

I wasn't with you last week.

Did develop some great contacts and

information at our annual NACO

conference. Uh

Not much out of business for your

honorable board this morning. Other than

the sheriff's office did kick off our

junior

deputy academy this morning. There were

like 50 kids attending this year.

And uh

They were also one of our joint

operations yesterday. Our canine

uh unit came in as well along with

members of the Bureau of Investigation.

BCI came out there doing crime scene.

The kids are really loving it. Hopefully

it develops some interest in our youth

and uh

maybe some uh potential uh

employees as they as they go through and

and get some good people in our law

enforcement department. But other than

that, I mean anything your board this

morning unless uh

gentlemen have any for me.

>> Did you price the helicopters?

>> I did price the helicopter. It was a wee

bit above our budget, I think.

And I think what you The good thing is

they are based out of Fort Worth.

They're made right here. And uh

Yeah, pretty damn close to over

1.2 million dollars.

>> Was that [clears throat] all in?

>> Uh what's that? Yeah, that's all in.

But we did you make drugs? So the good

thing is our drone program if they

become obsolete or old, I did develop a

contract with a drone company right here

in Fort Worth and and that's always good

to have.

I would have you know, I'd give you you

would have the first ride in it if we

could afford it.

>> I would have given it.

>> [laughter]

>> Looks like it's a lunch.

We're doing lunch at the lunch today.

Lunch for our chief.

>> [laughter]

>> I think probably getting used to this

view.

>> You know what?

>> That would be the coming year.

You get the first ride in it.

>> Everything's about in here.

>> Everyone loves a good

Super cute.

>> Very good. Thank you, sir.

Anything from the engineer's office?

>> Just a couple updates. Only got you down

a big one so we're going to go over

those. Haven't spent

uh pages spent quite a bit on that.

Uh probably got that stuff done. We're

going to dump that stuff Friday. Still

need to stripe, but

turned out really nice. I appreciate

everyone's patience out there.

Appreciate the commissioner's

participation.

The project

is uh uh uh

I'd like to make every road in the

county look like that.

I will. So,

um

Original Slate Run

uh should be open by the end of this

week.

It's tear down the road. It'll be really

nice once it's approved and done.

And Original Betty Wilson should also be

open as well. Probably take a week to do

that.

So.

I'm good.

That's what we have going on.

>> Appreciate it, sir.

Thank you.

>> Department head.

>> What?

>> Do you have anything, sir?

>> Uh yeah, three things here. One, I want

to give kudos to AB and Rhonda. Where

are you at?

>> Sure.

>> Yeah, I'll speak with them. Give kudos.

>> I'll split the savings

>> I'll take all the kudos.

>> You'll take all the glory. Um next one I

have on my list is

um you know, this is all this

information recently received, but

um with their attorney over at Sleepy

Hollow, Daniel Brown, it's pretty

evident that that uh

Commissioner Shay

had reminded him numerous times of our

$5,000 cap.

So, I just wanted to make everybody

aware of that through you know, emails

and and communication and phone calls.

So, we'll pay

up to that $5,000 and then, you know,

basically see what he says and contest

or else. So, just wanted to make make

the board aware of that. Um the the

third thing I have on my list is a

request for

um the board to go into executive

session over the sale of surplus real

estate. This is for an information that

I obtained at about 6:00 this morning.

So,

we can do that now or we can do that at

the end. It's up to you.

>> I guess we'll do it now.

So, will someone make that motion?

>> Second.

>> Mr. Second. Any discussion?

Hearing none, roll call votes.

>> Mr. Chair?

>> Yes.

>> Dr. Sneed?

>> Yes.

>> Mr. Wallace?

>> Yes.

>> Do you want to hear the last vote again

before we discuss?

>> You can discuss.

>> So, shall we go into

>> Yes, I think it's important.

>> Yeah, relax.

You have

to put a big

exit executive session and resume normal

session at this time.

Come back in five seconds.

legal French. I'll find out when I

train.

>> Good.

So, last thing I had on my list today is

I I did want to give uh some props,

kudos, or whatever you say these days to

uh Amy and Rhonda. They've got the

office running the best it's running in

nine t years. Streamlined, efficient.

It's, you know, it's great. Can't say

enough. Rhonda's been going through

bills that we've been paying that we

shouldn't be paying and has saved us

thousands of dollars by redirecting

those bills to the responsible

people that should have been paying this

bill. So since it's so streamlined and

nice, can we uh do we still need two

people?

>> I think that face.

So I did want to say thank you guys.

Thank you very much for making my life

and my job easier.

>> Yes. Thank you. We appreciate it.

Done. Thank you.

>> I want my pig back.

Maybe this is for winning the pig show

at the fair last year. Hope to do it

again this year.

>> I take full credit for everything

because of my superior hiring.

>> There you go.

>> Possibly.

All right, let's tap everybody in the

back.

>> A resolution approving the payment of

invoices by Mass County order. Second

first and a second. Any discussion?

Hearing none. Roll call, please.

>> Mr. Shay,

>> yes. Dr.

>> Yes.

>> Mr. Walls.

>> Yes. Resolution supporting the

designation of census tract 909704700

and the city of Northern Mass County,

Ohio as an opportunity zone 2.2 site.

>> So moved second

and obstession

hearing none. Roll call, please.

>> Mr. Shane,

>> yes.

>> Dr. Z,

>> yes.

>> Mr. Wallace,

>> yes. Resolution approving a contract

with Madison Commercial Electric for

second floor courthouse lighting

improvements.

>> Some moved. Second. First and a second.

Any discussion?

>> Hearing none. Roll call, please.

>> Mr. Shane,

>> yes.

>> Dr. Sne,

>> yes.

>> Mr. Walls.

>> Yes.

>> Resolution approving inter fund

transfers for the Madison County Family

and Children First Council.

>> So move.

>> Second.

>> First and a second. Any discussion?

Hearing none. Roll call, please.

>> Mr. Shank,

>> yes.

>> Dr. Sneakers,

>> yes.

>> Mr. Wallace,

>> yes.

>> The last one pertains to the ditch. So,

wait for this sharing.

>> Sounds good.

>> All I have.

>> Thank you. Appreciate it.

Chill. Chill.

How you like your new road?

>> How you like your new road?

>> I love the new

>> Are they flying by there now?

>> Yeah, I'll be glad 56 is open. It's like

being on the Indianapolis, but it's

crazy.

>> But it's a smooth ride now.

So if I don't

it

That's

How much did we contribute to that road

from the solar one? Was it 300,000?

>> Yeah.

>> So,

500 from

600 through OPWC built works commission

500 for my office

18 culverts a bridge

that all totaled out to be around 2 and

a half million

maybe three and then that does not

include the bridge over to LeBron, uh,

which was about a $2 million project.

So,

>> in total, we've got about a $4 million

investment on that road in the last

couple years.

>> So, the solar company gave 500,000.

>> The solar company gave uh is around

200,000 on their part,

>> right? And our 500,000 came from their

payment.

>> That was in addition, right? In

addition, too. Yeah. Yeah. But origin

that was what we we would have we would

have got for our payment that we pushed

towards them

>> marks basically 500,000.

>> Yeah. The general fund money but yeah.

Yeah. We said they're going to use some

of their solar dollars to pay for

infrastructure with the

>> Oh, I see. I see what you're getting at.

>> Yeah.

>> I don't know where your 500 came from.

>> That's where general fundates on the

general fund. How it got into the

general fund. or what? It's been three

years in the process, I guess. Yeah. So,

I don't remember.

>> Yeah, it was 250 one year and 250

another year.

>> You're basically

from those discretionary solar

contributed.

>> Yeah. So, we said we had some

solar money directly from spring water

and your share was from right revenue if

I understand correctly.

worked out good. I mean, that's that's

really really nice.

>> Have you heard much from Springwater?

>> Yeah, we're in touch.

>> We're on site.

Seems to be doing okay.

>> Yeah, this is one project that I'm kind

of left out of the loop on, which I'm

fine with that. Yeah. So that's why it's

>> Do we still have

>> how far along they were?

>> Do we still have our engineer?

>> Yes.

>> Okay.

>> Yes. So we still have DLC work longer

have

um I'm in touch with the developer at

least a weekly basis.

Got a good civil contractor

on job they seem to be

>> and they're paying for that engineer,

right?

>> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> They're paying for the engineer that

works for us.

>> That's correct.

started.

>> All right, time to go get some.

>> I mean, we kind of miscellaneous

all around drugs type thing that we've

been dealing with, but

>> can't read signs.

>> Nothing.

I can't read the signs.

It's normally the uh

it's it's normally the the local

companies that are falling stone that

know the roads

>> signs are optional for the days of the

week that we have difficulty but it's

not the ones that are you know

delivering components and filing and

racking that come from staying posted on

the following drag

the ones that know the shortcuts.

They have a staging area

in Columbus that the trucks report to

escort them from there to the site via

665.

quite a few lesson

truck on this project.

>> Yeah.

hydration.

We usually just drink the tap water.

Where you get that water? Where you get

that? I just refill it. Out of the

water.

No, out of the trunk.

Trunk.

You put a dollar in it

taking collections

not free that's extreme

you can bet

42 two reconstruction out by the since

we're all just sitting um out by the

freeway should be starting here real

soon. The lightning between speedway and

back row eagle bridge was more than

contract line

and

>> that's for the turn lane.

>> That's for the center turn lane. It's

total reconstruction of the road between

Speedway and

>> Speedway's redoing their whole

>> deal.

The flagers later shut it down.

>> Yeah, it'll it'll maintain traffic, but

it's going to deal.

>> Yeah. Traffic

nightmares. Yeah.

>> So, it's going to get a lot worse. It's

better certainly.

That's been my gosh, that's been eight

years, isn't it?

remember trying to coordate

that project with water?

>> Yeah,

>> that thing's been in the ground for

three years now at least.

>> Yeah, we saw moving the BS back.

>> Are they going to give access to the

water tower? Do you know?

>> Yes.

>> Yeah, they did.

>> I knew that was thanks to you. That's

why we got that access to begin with.

Remember we were trying to go through

the

one of the right there.

>> Yeah. So, it had to be approved like

>> Yeah, I know.

>> It's not something they normally do, but

because it's just a maintenance.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> That right was bought using federal

dollars back in the 60s,

which

is they purchase the access rights, the

$20 limited access. They purchase the

access rights for those property owners

as part of the deal. So

>> right

>> this is why the property behind built

station is problematic. It's hard to

short piece where limited access.

Well that'll help that area when it's

done.

I wish they would have went all the way

down to the freaking bridge, but I wish

it was four lanes. Yeah.

They even squeeze a four lane in there.

>> It's kind of weird because the bridge is

four lanes and then they're going to go

down to a three lane.

But

yeah,

three minutes didn't work.

Oh, yeah.

>> They're not going to do anything north

of the bridge, right?

>> Yeah. Like towards pilot.

>> Yeah, they're taking it up to anchor.

>> It's just now

>> Oh, okay. So, that would be I got you.

Okay. You said that. Okay. Yeah, that's

good. Yeah, cuz I just now submitted it.

I got it tomorrow.

>> I heard uh the truck company like man

>> the old camper place. Yes,

>> I heard in

I shouldn't say anything, but I'm not

going to say who I heard it from. Um but

they're leaving.

>> I heard that, too. They're going they're

building a brand new facility, combining

that one with another one, and they're

building it in.

>> Okay.

>> But I think they're going to keep the

lease on that property. Now, this is

hearsay thing, but I mean, I heard it

from a record builder,

but I think they're going to keep it as

I the contract probably is still in

there, but they're going to move that.

So, it be still be a good location.

where

they're where they're at. Came in.

>> Yeah, they're moving.

>> They're probably out of space.

>> Ant that's what

I wouldn't mind.

>> I know real happy with their their

facility.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Yeah, they have plenty of room there to

expand when needed.

>> Yeah,

>> that sure is handy for us personalized.

Well, they they've been good. They've

really been good.

Good young sound boys.

Home wrap is now 9:10. This is the

moment everyone's been waiting for. The

Snider G first public hearing and the

floor is yours, sir.

>> Good morning. Um, this is the first

hearing of the side extension. Uh,

everyone know we were here a little bit

ago for the the just kind of show what

was going on with the drains. So, uh,

we'll get started here. This is just an

old map. The original the original slide

ditch was a tile that was installed in

1905. So, you know, this stylus

has a has a lot of age on it. So, it's

been improved in uh 2015. They did

improve it. We did run a from the

existing blade run,

but not good.

Um, so existing blade run ditch, we

improved the slider ditch up to here

with a 15inch tile. And then when they

installed or when they lost these slots,

they installed a an 8 in tile and then

another 12-in tile up to the road here.

So that that portion has been improved.

Uh the yellow line represents that's the

current wershed for the existing site

ditch and that's approximately about 150

acres right now.

>> Given that the original tile was

uninstalled by petition.

>> Yes. Yeah, that was installed by this

was petitioned in like 2015.

The property owners petitioned that

pretty much so they could get the last

square on.

>> But the original tile in 190,

>> the 1905 tile is still in place.

>> But was it installed by petition?

>> That was installed by by the petition

process back in 1905,

>> which at that time they did not go on

maintenance.

>> Correct. Yeah. Yeah, it was just a way

to

>> it was way too much to get together to

install the install the tile share cost,

but it wasn't gone maintenance like it

is today. So,

>> does it still work?

>> It's kind of going through some trees.

So, I think it's kind of uh that

existing one's kind of kind of shot

going through the woods there. They

installed the another 15inch CC there.

>> What about the 1905?

>> That one is uh I think It's still in

there, but it's not not very functional.

That's why they petitioned the new one

for the 15 inch.

>> But the 15. Okay.

>> 15 is working good. Yes.

So this is uh

the project area. So you have the

existing this is the current waterway

and there's another waterway here.

They're

not grass water farm through but they

are they are functioning a little bit

and we'll get into more of the details

about these two things here in a second.

This is

looking at

let me back one second.

So

the next picture we'll we're mostly

focusing on on this water right here

because this is the predominantly this

area and the area behind the um railroad

tracks is one that's starting the post

flooding issues. So, we're mostly

focusing on on this area.

And

so, did the pictures I took are starting

here at the driveway looking this way

and then looking out here. And then I

have some more pictures that

look out from State Route 42 towards the

railroad tracks.

So, as you can tell, this is looking

west from that driveway. There's a they

farmed through it and they had recently

tiled that field. So, it's kind of hard

to make out the you know real as you

know the real part of the soil but you

can kind of tell it it kind of meanders

through there. It functioning a little

bit. It needs to be put on grade.

This picture is looking at the driveway

looking up. It's about 142. So, that has

been blown out recently. It's It's

functioning. It's still at the at the

road. There's still a a jump it has to

take to get out of the tile.

So, this is that 142 looking up towards

railroad tracks when it's dry. This was

after uh I don't know how much of a rain

it was. One of our big four or five inch

rains. Uh you can tell his whole yard is

completely unundated with water

and the issue is you have a 24in tile at

the railroad track and then you have a

15-in tile at the road. So, you know,

you kind of do the math. It's just not

getting out fast enough.

This is back at the road tracks looking

back at the shadow property.

Um this is where the 24 comes through

the railroad tracks. This is another

picture taken after rain. So that water,

you know, from the culbert at 142, it's

backing up the whole way through Peter's

property and then back into the farm

field. I think this is approximately

20 acres of water that gets flooded out.

So we took

went out took elevations of the whole

waterway.

I got four to four different areas that

are potential

potential ways to relieve this

variation. But um first I kind of looked

at south of the tracks here to see if

there's a way to intercept the water

before it goes through the tile. You

have two 24-in tiles on this side.

There's one 24in tile here. um down the

road here. It's a

like a 30 inch by

60 inch forward pipe there. So, it has

plenty of capacity there. Um going this

way, we kind of out this way cuz you

only had 03%

of it. So, that's like 300s and 100 ft.

started very very flat and you'd have to

deal with the railroad and have to take

out a lot of the trees and he would

probably use some farm ground. So we

kind of eliminated that

aspect of it. Another way was to

intercept the water as it came over

as it came across the railroad tracks

kind of go along the back property lines

and up to this culbert and again that

was

like 7 0700s of a grade. So and again

trying to deal with the railroad you're

probably not going to get any

cooperation whatsoever with the

railroad. Um, another one that we also

are considering it be coming down the

front of the properties here. The ditch.

So,

the ditch here is

there's like a high point right here.

So, you have to regrade the ditch. ODA's

giving permission to be able to regrade

the ditch, but they want the slope

flattened a little bit. So, we'd have to

move the whole ditch

back towards property lines or back off

the right way a little bit more. So,

that would kind of be possible because

you're basically reconstructing a whole

ditch. Um, you know, that could be done.

Or we could put a tile in the hallway.

That would be

that probably get expensive. Um, I know

there is the 12-in tile through here,

but it's not it's about a foot higher

than the existing color work going

across the road and where it outlets

here, it still has to take a jump. So,

it's really not functioning as well as

it should. Um, to really function well,

you probably have to upsize it and do

some regrading along the the dish there.

Um the final

final one we looked at was um regrading

this waterway here. We uh I looked at it

from a

from the point here has to take a little

bit of a jump out of the dish here. But

if we start at the invert of this stver

and go 1,000 ft at 10th grade, we'll be

able to obtain the correct we'll be able

to catch up to the ditch here or the

swale there. Um be a quick little they

can blow it out. We wouldn't keep it in

um we wouldn't put it in a grass

waterway right now. It would just be

strictly as a as a a swale through the

their field. um ODOT has agreed to

upsize this 15 to 24. So with that

capacity,

I think that would

>> probably on on most instances that

should serve and not cause any water to

back up

>> at least the capacity

through the road

>> coming through. So any other surface

water here which doesn't really amount

to much um that should be able to handle

that.

Uh also through this we would have to

upside the driveway pipe here. We put in

a it' be an elliptical pipe a 19 by 30

in pipe which is equivalent to 24. So

the hopes that you in 10th grade

everything sized right that you know all

the rates it should just flow flow

straight through.

This is kind of showing the grade of it.

The red line represents the existing

the existing ground as of now. So you

can tell here's the culbert at the at

142. So it does have to jump up a little

bit to get to that grade. And then it

this is a driveway at Amsburgger. So the

he has I think three 10in pipes in there

now. He was going to replace them and

put in a bigger pipe, but this project

would put in a just one single pipe so

that way it's not going to cause any,

you know, field debris to get caught up

into that cover. So the yellow line

represents the the new grade. So, we're

just picking up at the invert of the the

new pipe that OGAP would be installing

and running a tenth grade where it meets

up to the existing waterway. And that is

a a tenth per foot, which is flat, but

it's um from Madison County standard,

that's pretty pretty good. Um,

so this is the

the new or the the new watershed. It's

approximately 93 acres. So you have

where it connects to that the main

waterway. Uh, you got a little bit of

animals, a little bit of sher. The bulk

of it is on this side of the

this side of the tracks. um that

Battlesburgger here. I think there's

like 60 something acres here. So that

would

we would probably

just be

um

Yeah. So, it's just 93 acres

and

think that we we just came guess after

that we came up with some some costs.

These aren't final costs or these are

just some costs I threw together. So,

you got regrading the waterway. You got

ipical pipe some rock channel on both

ends of the pipe through the driveway.

Um obviously driveway repair. We will

have a 24 inch bore under state 42. OAD

has said that they would do they would

cover the cost of the bore. Um they will

put a pipe in as long as there's an

outlet. So we work in conjunction with

them getting that waterway blown out and

having them install that pipe. Um these

are the options. If you want to run an

18inch tile along the front of those

properties south of U 142, you need to,

you know, regrade that ditch. Um, we

probably regrade it. I'd have to talk

with ODOT. There's not a lot we have to

dip out. So, we might be able to get

away with just dipping it out. That's

something that we would I'd have to work

with ODOT on. Uh we went and change out

a 24 inch drive pipe that's kind of

smashed which is holding up a bag of

little bit of water. Um but these are

these are some of the preliminary

preliminary costs and I guess we can

open up to discussion to see what way

you know what people anyone's ideas or

any questions on what we want to try to

do here.

Uh if you're going to use the way where

you go across 142 and then down across

uh across Adamsburg corner of his

property, you want to regrade the

property next to Adamsburg's property.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Cuz it kind of floods up into their yard

when it backs up. He goes right across

the road from it.

>> So the Shider Farm uh connects to

West Shider.

>> West of Shider.

first house.

>> Yeah. Where it leaves

across his driveway.

>> Okay. So, it leaves here and come down

here.

>> Yeah.

>> It goes into his yard over here.

>> Yeah, it does.

>> That's why I had the proposal the whole

viral fine.

>> Yeah. Because when I went out, I never

saw any any issues with this waterway

because that water this waterways it's

all it's pretty much on grade

up. They join together. What comes out

under what can we do next to my house

which is across the road from

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. This comes out here and it just

kind of meanders through here.

>> Now, would that be the better way to do

it? I I'm not sure. I was just wondering

if that was going to be at least

regraded to to make the ditch a little

bit more. We can look at regrading the

whole waterway. Um, you know, I took

some shots on it. I'll go back and look

to see what what needs to be done there.

Um,

that was the only problem I can see with

that. I mean, coming down on the other

side of 142, you're going to Well, that

you're going to hit that right beside my

house and there's a pretty good size

there,

>> right?

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's just It's very very

flat trying to come down this way to

this.

>> Well, there's kind of a downhill slope

there, but at least the road that the

road follow,

>> right? Yeah. Yeah. There's a high point.

>> Yeah. I think there's a high point like

right there

>> where there's a big tree. But we I mean

we could get go down there, but we're

still still dealing with the same water

that's coming here.

>> But we can look at the

we can look at, you know, blowing the

whole waterway out then and seeing what

I don't know. It just seemed like need

to me it need less disruption just going

right down the same side of the road to

the bigger culbert there. side

is too high either.

>> It has I mean it has fall down to that

cart. So I mean it could be done. It' be

flat and ditch is pretty deep. We'd have

to that's where I was saying you have to

move the whole you have to regrade that

whole ditch. You have to slope it back

some o three to one side slope along the

brideway two foot wide bottom and then

slope back up. So you're cycling moving

have to move the whole ditch or we could

tile it which would

>> well then you got the

>> yard drive tile. They just put a tile in

here

>> that tile. Yeah, we got to install a new

new road cover

>> that's at

flat.

>> It's 008 along 42.

Yeah. So 0.08 is is not much grade to

work with. So that's kind of why we you

know we wanted to regrade this to get a

10th grade. So I mean we can look at you

know we can look at grading further

further down too to the where the file

is too

um at the

mer.

>> Yeah. So maintenance starts right here.

So we're talking about, you know, this

waterway is 3,100 ft. So we have to

So you know, we could,

you know, blow that out again and see

what I can check the grade.

>> Does it open up the property or does it

waterway continue?

>> Waterway continues on through there.

So it

and it's a actually a pretty good Not a

bad waterway going on that side of the

thing up to the woods.

>> I mean, is there great to be had if we

if we continue through?

>> I

you'd have to I didn't take any shots on

the existing one. I go out and check to

see if we could pick out much more

drain, but then we're we're getting, you

know, I was afraid cut too much out of

that and make it too deep for them to be

able to farm to. Then they're

>> you know, talking. It's fairly deep down

>> right front of the woods where it kind

of snakes around. It's

>> It's kind of deep there.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Right now they can drive through

and farm to it. It's not that

>> property shutters

to grass all this.

>> Well, that that'd be the other option

would be to to grass grass. I mean,

there's programs for that to have a

setting.

>> I've worked with

Doug Adler to blow that out and he blew

it out and then he farmed through it and

build it back in. So, if you don't put

on maintenance, don't put on the grass

and continue to plow it shut on.

>> So, we can propose, you know, grass

waterway too. I mean, that's another

option

>> all the way to 42. We could do from here

you have 3100 ft of uh

>> grass waterway.

>> That's what I put on to go from 142 all

the way to Glen the Glen Road is what I

actually proposed not just that little

section

>> but they don't see problem.

>> Okay.

Yeah. Does that

flat It's all maintenance though.

>> I mean, if it's on maintenance though,

at least

>> it's maint.

>> Yeah.

>> If you put it in grass, you're going to

end up with two small pieces on that

field that are going to be problematic

for

>> Yeah. Right.

Yeah. That's part of the reason like

Ryan said, you know, you got these

corners here. If it's grass, it kind of,

you know, makes that

>> what's going to stop chisel plowing

through it though. The same problem.

>> Well, if it's on maintenance, at least

we don't have an ease, but they can keep

up with the I mean, we can't keep them

from chis through it, but I know

proposal to stop.

Well, 90% of the time they do,

right? at least.

>> Yeah. I mean, you know, allows us to do

a little maintenance blow out every

every so often, too.

>> When was the last time that ditch was

maintenance

20 years ago, y'all?

>> I don't know. It's not a maintenance.

>> No, it was just a maintenance section of

>> the ditch.

>> Yeah,

>> we mow it.

>> What was the last time was actually

maintenance to great?

>> It was uh probably when it was first

built. I mean that's all negative. It's

not that

I've submitted multiple records requests

are available at our office if you want

to look at. We got the files ready for

you to look at.

>> I've I've submitted multiple complaints

about that not being maintained all the

way back to February and it's prenating.

So according to high revised code, if I

submit a written complaint about your

maintenance ditch not flowing, you are

required to provide a report to me in 30

days and we're like 6 months.

>> Okay.

So, and my proposal was that entire

section, which

I I don't know if you missed that part,

but I put from 142 all the way to the

maintenance section to get the water

completely

away.

>> Okay.

Okay. Well, we can get you doing that

water right then. That'll be easy. Well,

and again, the purpose of this from this

first hearing is to talk through what

our different options are, see what's

palatable to the group, and get some

guidance moving forward on what we come

back with at the final hearing.

You know, because a lot of this boils

down to what costs are as well,

>> right? And we got to come up we got to

come up with something that that is

working costwise from a from a benefit

cost perspective.

So all I'm saying is the whole point of

us being here is to talk through these

options.

This is all valid

for us to go back with some guidance

from the board and from the property

owners on

what the appetite is and what's bal.

So you know sometimes you have more than

one first hearing. You know, a lot of

the ditches we have more than one first

hearing because we, you know, you still

kind of have a lot of discussion with

property owners to see what they want,

what they can afford, what they want to,

what they want to see. So, you know, we

can I was looking at from a, you know,

cost standpoint, trying to minimize

cost, come here, get the grade. You

know, this is going to be lower than

this, so that water is going to get out.

So, you can chase it as far as you want.

and you know

>> because you guys been the ones that are

paying for it and

>> I want to make sure to get the water off

my property it continues

>> right

>> and

you know that's why the initial proposal

was to include all that so we don't have

that

>> we're saying it's not flowing through

charters

>> no properly

>> so Ken why don't you continue this

hearing

>> yes

to continue the hearing Yeah,

>> I'll

go out and get some more elevations if I

need to and come up with some more

additional plans and additional costs

and

>> patience go with that. And I'll I'll

include, you know, something along the

road here to regrade this ditch as well

to, you know, cuz that'll act as a a

secondary outlet to this. So that will

that continue to I'll add that in as

well. So

um I guess that's what we just moved to

continue this hearing. Uh

I think

probably

30 days

>> I think it's time to do those. Yeah.

>> Oh, that's right.

>> The paper and the mailing out. So,

I guess be what? August. In August

would be the next

>> if we want to

date I

Monday by this coming

>> or I can come back. I can come back with

>> Yeah.

>> A date. Yeah.

>> Come back there. We can just

>> I mean it only takes a week out to get

it in the paper. Yeah.

>> Okay.

>> The notifications get resent,

>> I believe. So,

>> yes, you have the public. It's public

hearing. So, you have to resend rem.

>> I think that would be plenty of time.

>> Okay. I would just say July 21st. Okay.

So, we'll move to continue the hearing

to July 21st.

And we'll do let's just say 9:30.

>> You want me to look at that?

>> I can't look something.

>> Okay. 9:30.

>> Very good.

>> Anyone have any questions? uh feel free

to call our office or I can stick around

and answer any questions if you want.

It'll be the same time first. It'll be

9:30.

>> 9:30.

>> All right. To be continued. Thank you.

Appreciate it.

See,

you're still sharing. You're still

sharing.

materials

for part.

You really have

like

Thank you.

Yes.

>> If you want to come up front, you can

come forward.

>> Come up front.

>> Some of you, all of you guys are seated.

Sit up here.

truck. That's right. Raise your right

hand.

>> All right, we'll exit our regular

session. We call to order the park

Madison County Park District meeting for

June 16th.

Everybody should have received a copy of

the meeting minutes and the financial

reports. Move to approve the minutes in

the financial report.

>> Second and a second. Any other

discussion

hearing? None. Roll call, please.

>> Mr. Shay,

>> yes.

>> Dr. Smith,

>> yes.

>> Mr. Walls,

>> yes.

>> Right. Let's start with our partnership

reports friends group.

>> Quick question.

>> Yes.

>> Last part of meeting. Did you guys

mention something about you district one

time you couldn't hear?

>> Um the 21st, July 21st.

>> It might change. So

>> go ahead.

>> Yes, absolutely.

>> Yeah.

>> Um so uh camper report found 120 campers

as of the seven which is our highest

year to date. So quite a bit. We had on

sat Saturday we had the 23rd annual

London Strawberry Bicycle Tour

fundraiser went really well. um third

highest year ever, which we were happy

about because it looked like a couple

weeks beforehand and it was going to be

one of our lowest year. That was nice.

Um but everything went really well.

People seem to really enjoy this piece

that we provided at the end of the

service. It was a good event. Um

closed the gap.

The appraisal has been adjusted. The

survey was readjusted. The appraisal has

been adjusted. I think you guys got a

copy of that if you want most recently

whatever. Um, and I sent the bills for

those on to Westfield Collective and

they're sending the checks.

So now we're just basically waiting on

um OSI/Mick Southern to finish the

advant.

So again, still shooting for end of

summer.

Um, there anything else we

um and then just kind of an FYI, we've

been talking to a company called

Designing Local. They're a landscape

design firm that is well experienced

with trails and trail development, trail

gateways, trail heads, kind of stuff.

And they're actually more engaged there

as well. and he was not embedded by a

much larger experience group to discuss

that one of their guests came out and

walked the entire length of the trail

purchasing and discuss

this that and the other all the stuff we

want to consider doing and they came

back with a tenative proposal which you

know we we've kind of reviewed at least

briefly and so they're in the right it's

like $23,000 for the full

um process it might be for the entire

space plus the trail head different

stuff we want to do with the bridge etc.

So just FYI kind of when you hit start

to look at that now because as we get

closure action purchase properts

and pieces we so we're not hiring

anybody or paying any just yet. just

ground.

Anything else?

>> We painted the bridge down.

Yeah,

>> the bridge over the senior center

getting a little little moy.

Oh, and they are working on the um

the the gutter slash fascia on the shell

rounds. There was some issues that we

found because of the car be trying to

figure out what to do with them. Then we

find out, oh, there's an issue actually

up under the gutter in the east instead

of whatever.

Very good.

Appreciate that update.

Engineers office. Any updates?

>> Just want to mention that we have

requested vote for billing the

size on the trail. There are a number of

those in about the 40 range

back,

but just start the wheels turning as far

as that won't be able to fall within the

initial the normal $40,000. There'll be

issues that just general maintenance. So

be asking for uh

process.

>> Very good. Thank you, sir.

>> And one little addendum here. So if you

note from the appraisal that you got

that's the appraised value that's not

the what we're paying right so after

this adjustment survey what we're

actually paying is a little bit in other

words FMCP is paying a little bit more

county's paying a little bit less I have

those numbers if you want them I can

give it to you to

>> an email yeah be good to have those in

writing appreciate it

>> soil and water

I'll start There's a fire flyer included

in your pack of today. So, we'll do our

Angel Jack paraph ride on July 11th from

9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. So, it is a nice

easy flat trail. All ages are welcome on

that tour with us and we ask that you

wear your helmet and drink a water

bottle. So, hope you guys can join us

this year.

>> Tony will be there.

side by side.

>> And then just because we did have an

issue raised about ticks, I know tix is

a concern and just as a general

educational thing, I'll turn it over to

Barack. You know, you might hear people

worried about ticks and bioengineered

ones or these these is the Bill Gates

ticks or

>> Yeah. So, we got email through our

website uh a trailer user who we just

had some concerns with this. Um I was

able to speak to her and let her know

that we have seen a population increase

over the years to part winters. Um but I

let her know about some of the magic

effect.

Um she lives along the trail so there's

potential that she's getting it just

crossing that that barrier there in the

back. Um, so I offer to come out take a

look and do that and I give her some

stat about different species and ways to

prevent this.

>> Get some guineies.

>> Yeah.

>> All right. Thank you for that.

Any other business

for the park district?

Going once.

Going twice. Our next meeting will be

July 21st at a time determined.

Thank you all. Appreciate it.

Depart from district meeting and resume

normal session.

Ladies, did you have something?

>> We wanted to um discuss the um the

transfer

department's

office location. Um there's some charges

that are recruitment cost to kind of let

you guys go ahead, but that's going to

be a cost that's going to be

on the taxes.

>> So you're saying the 10point acres that

we just purchased, there's taxes owed on

that

>> the recruitment. So because we

originally landed all that was on the

farm for

>> it would be recruitment. Exactly.

>> Um so we have the amount here um just at

no providing applying that or um we did

reach out I don't exemption

unfortunately on that obviously the main

transfer fees are but not so

>> how much is it

>> $3,537930

>> yeah so you're been in the contracts and

they pay then we perfectly stuff with

that.

>> Yeah, there's no LRC that states whether

it's the buyer or the seller that does

it. We've kind of come into the same

issue

fortunately.

So

>> yeah, I have to go back and

all that being.

So, we're going to go ahead and get it

so she can move forward with the split.

We'll put it on. We usually put it on

like parcels. So, like parcels that we

were going on that um and then

once it's paid, you know, it'll be if

not

I guess we could put on the the 10 acre

loan. We just don't normally do that,

but that way it doesn't get paid before

or whatever. I hope the person stop a

bit

there. So,

>> okay.

>> Thank you.

>> Appreciate it.

>> Thank you.

Right. Ladies, gentlemen, anything else

for the good of the order?

Second meeting.

Thank you. Yeah, appreciate it.