Delaware County (OH) Board of Commissioners · 2026-06-22

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Delaware County Commissioners' Session- June 22, 2026

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Delaware County Board of Commissioners,

would you please join me in the pledge

of allegiance?

I pledge allegiance

>> to the flag

of the United States of America, and to

the republic for which it stands, one

nation under God,

indivisible, with liberty and justice

for all.

>> All right, thank you. I'll do

introductions. I'm Jeff Benton,

president of the board this year. To my

right is vice president and fellow

commissioner Gary Merrell. To my left is

fellow commissioner Barb Lewis, our

administrator Tracy Davies, deputy

administrators Dawn Huston and Eric

Clouse settle over here.

And our clerks are Kathy Melvin and

Jennifer Walraven. We can begin.

>> Resolution number 26-428

in the matter of approving the

electronic record of proceedings from

regular meeting held June 15th, 2026.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? Vote?

>> Vote on motion 26-428.

Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> We do not have any public comment today.

That brings us to item number three.

Resolution number 26-429

in the matter of approving purchase

order.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? Vote?

>> Vote on motion 26-429.

Mr. Merrell?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 26-430

in the matter of a new liquor license

request from SR Square and forwarding to

the Ohio Division of Liquor Control with

no objections and no request for a

hearing.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? [clears throat]

Vote?

>> Vote on motion 26-430.

Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 26-431

in the matter of accepting and approving

the recommendation of the Union County

Board of Commissioners for a maintenance

assessment of 40% for the Ottawa Run

Joint County Ditch.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? Vote, please.

>> Vote on motion 26-431.

Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrill?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 26-432.

In the matter of approving travel

expense requests.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? Vote?

>> Vote on motion 26-432.

Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrill?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 26-433.

[snorts] In the matter of approving the

request for qualifications and technical

proposal for an NFPA

70E arc flash and 70B electrical

maintenance program assessment for

Delaware County facilities.

>> So moved.

>> Second. Discussion?

Vote.

>> My name's Laura Hatcher. I'm the safety

coordinator for the county.

Uh good morning, commissioners.

I'm here because I want to recommend the

approval for the request for technical

or for qualifications and technical

proposals for the arc flash and

electrical maintenance program

assessment. Uh this will be for all

Delaware County facilities.

I am recommending this because the

project's going to evaluate the county's

electrical equipment and electrical

safety programs to identify hazards and

improve system reliability.

The assessment supports compliance with

OSHA, per NFPA,

and

NFPA 70B standards while providing

employees with the training and guidance

needed to work safely.

By proactively addressing these

electrical hazards through analysis,

maintenance, training, and program

development, the county reduces risk,

protects employees, and supports

reliable operations.

Thank you.

>> Okay.

Um any questions or comments?

>> No. Thanks for

it.

>> Yeah.

Well done.

Uh vote please, Jennifer.

>> Vote on motion 26-433.

Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Thank you very much. Thank you.

>> Resolution number 26-434.

In the matter of authorizing the

submitting of an application for the

Victims of Crime and State Victims

Assistance Grant for Victim Services.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion?

>> Good morning, Commissioners. Sorry, I'm

losing my voice. So

I'm Nicole Ford with the Delaware County

Prosecutor's Office. The Victim Services

Unit of the Delaware County Prosecutor's

Office would like to apply to renew our

grant of Victims of Crime Act and State

Victims Assistance grants. The grant

period runs from October 1st, 2026

through September 30th of 2027.

We're requesting partial compensation

for our Victims Director, Trish Wright,

and our three Victim Advocates, Megan

Powell, Maggie Dillman, and Caitlin

Grow. They continue to support our

Victims of Crime as well as uphold the

law by statute to provide Victims

Assistance. We are requesting federal

VOCA funds in the amount of $79,726.50,

which does include a local match of

$15,945.30.

We are also requesting $2,106

in state SBAA funds, which requires no

local match, and we would have the

opportunity to renew

um next year in 2027.

>> And I believe we

filed for this in the past.

>> Yes, correct.

>> Yeah, a long number of times.

>> A long time. Yes, I think since 2020 or

2003.

>> Oh, really? Okay. Good.

Uh questions or comments? Further ones?

Jennifer?

>> Vote on motion 26-434.

Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Thank you, Commissioners.

>> Thank you.

>> Resolution number 26-435

in the matter of establishing new

organizational keys and approving

supplemental appropriations for the

Emergency Management Agency.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion.

>> Good morning, Commissioners. Alex

McCarthy, Director of Emergency

Management for Delaware County. Um

recently in conversations with Karen

first and Brad Higgins uh regarding a

couple grants we work with, um we

decided that it would be good to

establish two new organization keys. One

to cover the funding we received for

local emergency plan committee efforts.

Those efforts to focus on hazmat

planning in the county. And another

organization key for a hazmat grant

we've received uh the 2025 through 2027

hazardous materials emergency

preparedness grant. In addition to that,

we're also requesting supplemental

appropriations. Um first of which uh

would be 12,900

for hazmat trainings through the HMEP

grant. The second which would be 1,700

to cover uh conference travel uh which

would also be reimbursed through the

HMEP grant. We're also requesting 3,000

supplemental appropriations for a

license subscription for a software

called EM1. It's an AI emergency

management software.

>> Okay.

Questions or comments? Uh vote, please.

>> Vote on motion 26-435.

Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell?

>> Aye.

>> Thank you.

>> Good. Thank you.

>> Thank you.

>> Resolution number 26-436

in the matter of approving the owner's

agreement for Berlin Farms West section

8 and Berlin Farms West section 9.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion.

>> Good morning, Rob Riley, Chief Deputy

Engineer. Uh this is our standard uh

owner's agreement for the street and

storm water improvements

uh for Berlin Farm West section 8 and 9.

Uh this is being developed by MI Homes.

It's located just north of Berlin High

School.

>> Okay. Questions or comments? Vote,

please.

>> Vote on motion 2-6-436.

Mr. Batten?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Maro?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 2-6-437

in the matter of approving a

professional services agreement with WSP

USA Incorporated for the project known

as Dell CR5-2.15

South Section Line Road and Clarkshaw

Road intersections.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion?

>> Yes, we're asking for your approval uh

for this design uh contract with WSP

uh to design a uh single-lane modern

roundabout at the intersection of

Section Line and Clarkshaw Road. Uh

we've worked with WSP before and they've

they'll do a nice job with this.

Uh we were successful in receiving 100%

funding uh through the federal and state

highway safety improvement program for

this intersection.

Uh so we will be res- that's for the

construction phase. We will be

responsible for the design and

construction engineering as well as the

purchase of right-of-way. Uh but aside

from that, the uh federal and state

funding will cover the cost of the

project. So

currently scheduled uh for construction

in 2030. Uh so we've got a few years to

to get through the design, utility

relocation, and and purchase of

right-of-way.

>> Okay.

Um

how many bids did we get for this this

contract?

>> This is a professional services

agreement. We selected WSP through a

qualification-based selection process

that we go through

um

every year uh for various projects.

>> Okay.

Um would there be road closures with

this one?

>> The intersection will need be closed. Uh

typically we're we're building these

single-lane roundabouts uh

in in about 6 weeks, uh maybe quicker.

>> Okay.

All right. Questions or comments?

Jennifer, vote.

>> Vote on motion 2-6-437.

Mr. Batten?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Maro?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 26-438

in the matter of a permit right-of-way

work permit, Sam Rishi.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion.

>> I have six permits for your approval

today. These are all typical utility

installations.

>> Okay. Questions or comments? Vote,

please.

>> Vote on motion 26-438,

Mr. Merrill.

>> Hi.

>> Mrs. Lewis.

>> Hi.

>> Mr. Benton.

>> Hi.

>> Thank you.

>> We do have another business item today.

Resolution number 26-439

in the matter of delegating temporary

authority to the county administrator.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion.

Vote.

>> Vote on motion 26-439,

Mrs. Lewis.

>> Hi.

>> Mr. Merrill.

>> Hi.

>> Mr. Benton.

>> Hi.

>> We still have a few minutes before we

are permitted to start our 9:45 um CDBG

hearing, so that can bring us to

administrator reports. Nothing today,

thank you.

I have nothing, thank you.

>> Eric, you always have something.

>> Yes.

>> All right, I guess not.

Uh

Commissioner Merrill.

>> Uh just a couple things. Uh regional

planning uh was moved till this

afternoon rather than last

Wednesday, so that'll be this afternoon.

And we're attending that. I was

privileged or honored uh a couple of

people when I worked the Board of

Elections

were interested in Delaware County, so I

gave a

fairly lengthy tour to them both, and I

think

the advantage of that is people who

don't really know what goes on in the

county.

I was I think they would both tell you

they were very impressed and very

enlightened by the 3 hours we spent

together.

>> Oh my.

>> And

uh we we saw much of this campus. I took

them out to Bixby as well. And we took

them out to Home Port because one of

them has some involvement as a voter in

that previously, so uh

uh it's I think it was very I think they

would tell you it was very informative,

and I uh think it gives them a good idea

of what goes on in Delaware County, so

that's all I have.

>> Yeah, I'm going to do a really nice job

of it.

>> I'm sure it was.

>> Actually, just a question for Rob.

So, this is great. And that's good. Now,

um first of all, Rob, thank you so much

for keeping us uh informed about the

railroad crossings. And I noticed uh

Cheshire is it was postponed, and then

there was something else. I forget what

road it was that

or what crossing it was that was

postponed. But, anyway, just wondered

uh if there's any updates on on that,

Cheshire in particular.

>> Yeah, we're we're getting updates uh

typically on a daily basis from the

railroad. So, we'll we'll certainly post

the information as soon as we have it.

Um but, I think Berlin Station might

have been the other

>> Oh, I Okay.

>> I'm uh Lee has been handling a lot of

that, and he's been doing a good job of

getting that information out.

>> Has he?

>> Mike, Mr. Lewis, I use Cheshire

>> a lot.

>> Yes.

>> And uh we look forward to getting that

one done. And I again And of course, we

have dual railroads. So, one's fixed,

>> Right.

>> and one's not. [clears throat]

>> Yes.

>> So, uh we've still got work to do. I

assume the other railroad at some point

will

uh be constructive in doing their part

of the

process.

>> It sure would be nice if they worked

together at the same time.

>> You would think while they're there,

they could maybe work out a deal where

they do both and reimburse the other

one, but I guess that's

>> [clears throat]

>> too much.

>> Yes.

>> What is the construction going on then

just uh east of uh

southeast of Cheshire, the intersection

there with with the railroad and then

Cheshire?

>> Yes, we currently have the intersection

at Piatt and Peachblow closed. Is that

what you I think you're referring

>> Right. And there's a huge building

There's already one huge building back

there to the right, south.

>> Yes.

>> But, I wonder if they have It's all torn

up as far as

They're moving a lot of dirt.

>> They are. That is

>> [clears throat]

>> That's a new single-family home uh

development.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Um right at Cheshire and Pyott Road,

kind of that southwest corner. Um

And the name of the development's

escaping me, but um

>> That's okay. Yeah, just wondering about

it.

>> Yep.

>> Oh, okay.

Probably approved.

Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.

I have nothing else.

>> Okay. Um just a couple of things. Uh we

got

roughly 30 seconds. Uh we don't have

session this Thursday. We do have a

regional planning commission Thursday

evening.

Got a SEECO board meeting Friday.

And just a reminder, we just opened up

our community enhancement grant program

for 2026.

Deadline, I think it's July 9th for the

applications. So uh

if you

you or you know of anyone who has a

project, uh please make sure you

complete that by 4:00, I think it's 4:00

on July 9th. And it's a

it's a hard deadline, so

>> I've got one more thing, too, when

you're done.

>> I'm done.

>> Oh, you're done. Okay. Um Preservation

Parks has its fundraiser this Thursday

night. It's gala over at uh the African

Center at the zoo. So

So

>> I could not attend, but I did write a

check, so

>> I'm I'm going.

>> Um

Okay.

Jennifer, come in. Is it time we do

>> We

We are permitted to start our hearing.

>> CDBG hearing?

>> Um Justin Nave and Carolyn Thurman with

Civic Uplift um have our 9:45 hearing

for annual action plan to the Community

Development Block Grant CDBG program and

we'll note the time is 9:46.

>> All right.

The hearing is open, and Justin, the

floor is yours.

>> Great. Thanks, Commissioners. Justin

Nawabi, Director of Finance.

Uh here this morning is Carolyn Thurman,

who is the founder and principal with

Civic Uplift. And she's going to be

presenting on the FY26 annual action

plan for the CDBG program.

>> Good morning.

>> Welcome.

>> Good morning. Welcome.

>> Thank you. Uh I know I was here not too

long ago to present on the FY2025 CDBG

program.

Uh just due to some delays with the

federal government and shutdowns, that

program ended up being a little bit um

off schedule than normal. So, here today

we're going to get back on schedule with

the the typical process for CDBG

program.

Uh in order to get the annual action

plan, which is the 2025 grant

application to HUD, into their offices

by August 16th.

So, I'm going to talk a little bit about

the purpose of the hearing today. We're

going to go over the CDBG program, uh do

an overview of the fiscal year 2025

annual action plan, and then allow some

time for public comments.

As part of the CDBG program, the county

is required to have public hearings

twice a year at two different points in

the program process. And so, as I

mentioned earlier, that today we're

getting back in the what would be the

consistent schedule.

And uh around this time of year would be

a public hearing to talk about the

annual action plan before it's submitted

to HUD. And then um the second hearing

would be after the performance report,

so in the winter to talk about what we

had done in the previous year.

So, to talk a bit about the CDBG

entitlement program, it is again a

federal funding program from the US

Department of Housing and Urban

Development. It's really developed to

identify and fund local community

development needs. So, as the

entitlement grantee, the county is able

to determine its own needs and how it

wants to spend the funding, to

communicate that up to the federal

government, and then receives funding to

make

progress towards those goals.

All projects for CDBG funding have to

address a national objective. So, it

could be to benefit low and moderate

income residents. It could also be to

prevent and eliminate slums or blighted

conditions. And I want to point out

here,

I've pulled this just straight out of

the federal regulations. What this

means, it does not mean that any

community is is a slum or blighted or

anything of that nature. It's really

getting at things that are substandard,

maybe

some code compliance issues,

historic preservation, you might have an

older structure in the community that

you want to bring back up to code. This

is some kind of unfortunately language

that they use in there, so I just want

to clarify what that means. And then

also you can address urgent community

development needs. That is very rarely

used. That is the opportunity if for

instance, there is a

like a natural disaster and the county

would have to move quickly, then CDBG

allows you to use them in those cases.

So again, very rarely used, but do want

to communicate that that is one of the

national objectives.

So, what can CDBG be used for? It can be

used for a wide variety of community

development activities. These are

examples, these are not all of the

activities, but just to to give an

overview.

So, infrastructure improvements, that

could be streets, sidewalks, water and

sewer, bridges,

culverts, curb cuts, anything that you

need to build out the physical

infrastructure in your community. Could

be public facilities improvements

including community centers,

park shelters, food banks, anything that

is a building that is used by the

public.

Economic development activities, so this

could be grants or loans to businesses.

It could also be offsite improvements to

support a commercial development.

It can be used for acquisition and

disposition of land.

Can be used for housing preservation.

So,

this would mean if

there were houses that needed repair

costs, maybe they were code

non-compliant, you'd want to bring them

back up to code. Use for historic

preservation, as I mentioned earlier.

And then there is a limit of what can be

used for public services and for

planning administration and fair

housing. So with public services, we're

talking about the operating dollars for

nonprofits, which is limited at 15% of

your annual allocation each year. And

then planning and administration of the

program and fair housing is limited at

20% of the grant.

So what can't CDBG be used for? It

cannot be used for the general conduct

of government. It's supposed to be

building community, so it can't cover

cover staff costs or

it can't cover office space for the

employees of the county.

It can't be used for political

activities.

It can't be used for basic maintenance

of public infrastructure, so you can't

use it to mow the grass at a park. You

can't use it to fill potholes, but you

can use it to build new infrastructure.

Uh it can't be used for new housing

construction.

>> [snorts]

>> And it can't be used to purchase

equipment unless that equipment is part

of a larger CDBG project. So for

instance, if you were building a

community center and you needed to build

out a kitchen in that community center,

then you would be able to buy that

equipment, but you can't do it on its

own.

For uh

fiscal year 2026, we have the same six

communities that have agreed to join the

county's program. So that's Marysville

Township, Orange Township, the Village

of Ostrander, Village of Shawnee Hills,

and the City of Powell. However, right

now communities can agree to join the

2027 program. We have reached out to

communities across the county to let

them know of their eligibility to join

and are in talks with a few communities

who are looking to join for next year.

Uh any other communities that are

interested need to reach out to us and

indicate their interest by July 2nd.

So I'm going to talk a bit about the

annual action plan. As I mentioned

earlier, I was here in January to talk

about the consolidated plan. The

consolidated plan is a 5-year document

where the community does this in-depth

look at identity identifying community

goals and priority needs for that again

that 5-year period. And each one of

those 5 years you have an annual action

plan that says how you're going to spend

that year's allocation. So, for the 2026

annual action plan that was embedded as

part of the the consolidated plan, this

year the document is much smaller. It's

just the action plan portion which is

effectively your budget to the federal

government of how you intend to spend

funds this year.

>> Mhm. Okay.

>> And then that funding then goes down to

the projects for implementation.

Just to give a quick overview of the

priority needs that were identified in

the consolidated plan, we identified a

need to support the construction of

public infrastructure and public

facilities.

And then public facilities for

recreation. There was a priority need

around affordable and workforce housing,

economic development, and then community

development support activities. So, this

is where you get your your code

enforcement type of activities. And then

of course program administration.

And these priorities were identified

through a number of different processes

through the consolidated planning

process. So, we had public outreach and

engagement. There were focus groups

held.

We had a community needs assessment

done, a capacity analysis of analysis of

what types of programming the county can

currently support, and

reach out to all the jurisdictions who

are participating in the county program

to ask their feedback as well as

reviewed existing data and studies and

existing plans.

And through that process we identified

four goals.

Goal one is to invest in community

infrastructure and facilities. Goal two

is to support stable and sustainable

neighborhoods. Goal three is to promote

economic opportunity. And goal four Goal

four is to manage the CDBG program

effectively.

For the 2026 annual action plan, we're

actually using the same projects we had

in the 2025 annual action plan.

Since we are still in the process of

doing that plan,

or that those projects, we're adding the

current year's allocation to those and

increasing that the bucket of funding,

and then we'll go back out to

communities to ask for

new projects.

The reason we're doing it this way is

that last year was the county's first

year as an entitlement grantee,

meaning that we're really creating that

structure to get the money out the door

quickly, to make sure that we're being

effective and efficient with our

funding. So, instead of changing course

now, when we don't quite have a full

year of data to see how it went the

first time, we're going to put more

money into this program, and then, as I

mentioned, there's also a performance

reporting process involved with CDBG,

and at that point we could take a look

and tweak further.

I do want to talk a bit about

the dollars for 2026. So, your annual

allocation this year is $434,811.

You have a projected carryover of

$145,527

from last year. That is just what this

leftover after the awards that were

given to the applicants from last year's

program.

So, that gives you a total of $580,338

for

fiscal year 2026.

So, for project one, administration,

this is 20% of the allocation award for

2026. This does not include 20% of

what's been carried over. This is just

from what you're receiving for 2026.

Project two, which is the Delaware

County Public Services program. This is

how we're supporting nonprofits in the

county. This is 15% of the fiscal year

2026 annual allocation. So again, it is

not 15% of what's carried forward, it's

just 15% of what you're getting this

year. And then project three is where

we've included that carry forward, and

this is the money for to support

infrastructure development and public

facilities in the county.

So I do want to talk a bit about what

has changed from last year to this year.

And as I mentioned earlier, it's not

much that has changed.

Now that the consolidated planning

process is done and that you don't have

that administrative burden going into

2026,

our goal is to work with community

partners and further refine these

programs and build out these projects

with a little bit more specificity in

the next year.

One of the first steps to that is the

public infrastructures and facilities

program from 2025 has been renamed the

community infrastructure and facilities

program just to make it more clear what

we're looking to get from that pot of

money.

And we're also going to update that

program to allow the use of more

national objectives so that cuz

2025 everything we're looking at low to

moderate income populations. Now we're

going to allow for slum and blight on a

spot condition. So if there's a specific

building or structure in a community

that they need to remediate or need to

bring to code or need to demolish, this

flexibility will allow them to apply for

that funding.

We will also update some of the language

to include more projects promoting

economic development. So this is offsite

improvement type of work,

infrastructure that is needed in order

to get

economic development uses into a

community.

And then we will also be working with

community partners to build out a

pipeline of projects. As you can kind of

see so far, this money it comes every

year, it can quickly catch up to you.

And so

with Delaware County previously being in

the state program where the county

wasn't as competitive for funding just

because of the state's formula, the

state really

their formula

makes it easier for communities that are

lower income to get funding, and

Delaware County is one of the higher

income areas of the state, and so

because this funding really wasn't

available to the county in previous

years, that pipeline of projects hasn't

fully been been built out. So, this year

our plan is to work with communities and

make sure that we're building that

pipeline up, and that we can spend the

money as quickly as we can get it.

And with [clears throat] that, I want to

open the floor to comments.

If anyone would like to provide comment,

they're free to speak during today's

hearing. They can submit

written comments, and we've got my email

address, and also Cheyenne, who's our

assistant planner, her email address is

on the screen as well. And the full

action plan will be available on the

website, the economic development

website for the county, which is listed

above. The public comment period will be

open from June 23rd through July 22nd.

With that, I'll

turn it over for questions [snorts] and

comments.

>> Okay.

Thank you. Anybody

in the audience for public comment?

I guess not.

Your talk was so informative, nobody has

any more questions.

>> That's always the goal, right?

>> Um, open it up to the commissioners.

>> Sure.

The the various

like Marlborough Township and others

that have joined, you say someone else,

if if another like Genoa Township

decides to join, they just have to let

you know before July 2nd.

>> Yes.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> And then we can get them included into

the program with HUD, and that will

allow them access to this funding.

>> Okay. Are the are the ones the the

groups that are in the program now,

they're the ones that came up with the

various goals?

>> So, we I the survey and the engagement

to the community county wide, but when

the one-on-one conversations it was the

jurisdictions that were participating.

So, from residents it's county wide, but

from local government it is those

jurisdictions, yes.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> Do they have specific projects

identified?

>> Some of them they they have projects

that are in the pipeline. Um like I

mentioned earlier, just because the

county really wasn't competitive for

CDBG funding under the state program, a

lot of people hadn't identified projects

that fit with CDBG, but in talking to

these communities they're working on

that now and there's a couple of of

items as they've worked through there.

They've got to get to, you know, level

of design first before they can apply

for funding, but there is some interest

there. Yes.

>> Yeah, I know I've heard of one community

that Post Engineers is working on a

project, so.

>> Yes.

>> And again, it's great to

make our county and all of our

communities aware of because there

there's some, you know, some significant

money and some really nice improvement

opportunities.

>> That's right.

Right. Really are. Very nice

presentation.

>> Yeah.

>> Thank you.

>> Okay.

>> Very clear.

>> Staff, any

>> Uh Tracy Davies, administrator. Just

wanted to thank Carolyn and team for all

of their work. You have really done a

good job helping us administer this

program and we wouldn't be as successful

without all of your efforts, so thank

you. I know it it's gone rather

smoothly, so we appreciate it.

>> I thank you. I appreciate that.

>> Absolutely.

Okay. Very well. Thank you very much.

>> Thank you so much.

>> All right. We will close that hearing

gentlemen.

>> Yes, we'll note the time as 10:01.

>> Which means we can now open

>> We can note the time as 10:01. We'll

just for clarity we'll go 10:02. We're

going to open our public hearing for

consideration of the Zerbe-O'Keefe

number 265 watershed drainage

improvement project and Mr. Betney you

can have a sheet there you can

explain what what going to do.

>> All right, I will um

go through the notes. The hearing is now

officially open.

I'll go through the notes of what will

happen today

um so everybody is familiar with the

process.

And with that, I will welcome everyone

to the final hearing for the

consideration of the Zerby-O'Keefe

number 265 watershed drainage

improvement project. There is a sign-in

sheet circulating the room. We ask you

please sign the sheet to indicate you

were in attendance.

Um we will now hear a summary of the

final hearing report from the county

engineer and the soil and water

conservation district. Following the

summary presentation, there will be time

for questions from the board.

After board questions, the board will

hear from any interested owners that

wish to testify. The those speaking for

or against the petition must be an owner

as defined in section 6131.01 of the

revised code, and we really have to

stick with that. We've had some issues

with that in the past. If you are not an

owner or an attorney designated by an

owner, you are will not be allowed to

speak. We apologize, but we have to

follow the code.

Um the board will acknowledge receipt of

any landowner written testimony before

hearing live testimony. We'll first call

all those wishing to testify in favor of

the project.

We will then call all those wishing to

testify in opposition to the project.

Before testifying, you'll be asked to

take an oath.

Um after all those test wishing to

testify for or against the project have

been heard, there will be an opportunity

for responsive or rebuttal testimony.

The board will then close the public

hearing after all testimony evidence has

been presented. After listening

testimony and report of the engineer,

the board will decide whether to find in

favor of the improvement, affirm the

previous order, confirm the assessments,

and approve the payment schedule, or the

board may dismiss the petition and set

aside the previous order.

The board must consider in the following

three factors in making its decision,

whether the pro proposed improvement is

necessary, whether the proposed

improvement will be conducive to the

public welfare, and whether the cost of

the proposed improvement will be less

than the benefit the improvement

provides. So, those are the That's the

process and the ground rules for today.

Should we Eric, should we address the

exception letters first at this point or

do we do that now?

>> receipt of them. Yeah.

>> I'm sorry, what?

>> Acknowledge receipt of any Yeah.

>> So, Jennifer, we did receive several

>> um three um

three letters today. Um two of them

would be considered um exceptions from

Julie. One is from Julie and Shawn

Havens, and the other is from Kathy and

Bill Rauch. And then we did receive a

letter from Linda and Gary Graham um

against the um petition. So, those are

the three written things we have

received at this time.

>> Okay. So, we've acknowledged we've

received it We've received three

letters.

Um

Should we do the exceptions at this

point, Eric, do you think?

>> Um you have a resolution to acknowledge

um

receipt.

>> Okay.

>> So, you can go ahead and do that now.

>> Um it is tied to

Resolution number 26-440.

In the matter of the Delaware County

Board of Commissioners acknowledging

receipt of the written objections and

exceptions to the assessments filed in

the proceedings for the Zerbe-O'Keefe

number 265 watershed drainage

improvement project.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Any further discussion?

>> These are specifically the exceptions uh

filed by Julie and Shawn Havens and Bill

and Kathy Rauch. And we can deal with

the actual exceptions later in the in

the hearing.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. So,

this resolution just acknowledges that

we received these two requests for

exceptions. Correct. Okay. Further

discussion. Vote please Jennifer.

>> Vote on motion 26-440.

Mrs. Lewis.

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrill.

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton.

>> Aye.

>> All right. With that, we will now turn

it over to our esteemed colleague from

the Soil and Water Conservation

District. Brett, take it away.

>> Thank you Commissioner Benton. Good

morning Commissioners. Brett Bacon,

Deputy Administrator of Soil and Water

Conservation District. I will do the

brief presentation on the project and

then be happy to answer any questions

the board might have.

The Zerbe-O'Keefe petition specifically

asked in Delaware County, Brown

Township, within the Zerbe-O'Keefe

number 265 watershed, and generally

following but not limited to the course

and termini of the existing

improvements, to generally improve the

drainage both surface and subsurface to

a good and sufficient outlet by

replacing, repairing, or altering the

existing improvements as required, and

or creating new surface and subsurface

drainage mains or laterals as requested

by this petition.

Project timeline.

Petition was filed by Gary Graham and

Linda Graham and others on November

22nd, 2019. February 20th, 2020, the

view was held. May 14th of 2020, the

first hearing was opened and continued

to October 1st of 2020.

October 1st, 2020, the first hearing was

uh

continued to June 10th, 2021. And on

June 10th, 2021, the first hearing was

concluded and the board directed the

Soil and Water District and the engineer

to proceed with engineering for the

project.

The watershed is approximately 249

acres. It is 75% agricultural, 11% rural

residential, 11% woods, and 3% road

right-of-way. The original petition was

signed by seven individuals representing

10 of the 21 parcels in the watershed.

Section one, you can see noted by the

black and white line,

is surface drain shaping and grading,

subsurface drain tile replacement,

erosion control measures, clearing and

snagging, and seeding and mulching.

Section two is an existing surface drain

and subsurface drain tile that if

approved would be accepted onto the

drainage maintenance program in its

current condition.

Project cost estimate, section one,

total construction cost $258,321.

$320.91.

This is the only construction portion of

the project.

We have the additional maintenance base.

There's a section surface drain for

section one that does not need work. The

value of that is $12,574.98.

And then the section two value is $29,

$224.23

for a total maintenance base of

$300,120.12.

Assessments. The revised code instructs

county engineer to calculate assessments

to the property owners based on the

benefits received.

The code further goes on to say, quote,

"Lands that have been removed from their

natural state by deforestation,

cultivation, artificial drainage, urban

development, or other man-made causes

shall be considered as benefited by an

improvement required to dispose of the

accelerated flow of water from the

uplands."

We use three factors in determining this

the assessments. Acres benefited times a

land use factor times a percent use

equals a parcel assessment factor. The

parcel percent share then is the parcel

assessment factor divided by the sum of

all the factors. And the parcel

assessment then is the percent share

times the total estimated cost.

Landowners have two options to pay their

assessment. It can be paid in full

upfront within 30 days of this final

hearing, or they can choose to have the

assessment placed on their property tax

bill as a special assessment. Choosing

the second option will incur interest

fees and the auditor treasurer uh 2%

collection fee.

Quick amortization example.

Our total estimated cost of 258,320.91.

The average assessment not including the

right-of-way parcels is $7,450

or a 2.9% share of the project.

Eight-year repayment interest of

assuming 3% would be $1,788

total dollars.

Eight-year total construction assessment

then $9,238.

15-year example 3% total interest will

be $3,345

with a total of 15-year construction

assessment of $10,795.

The auditor treasurer's fees for 8 years

and 15 are $185 and $216 respectively

for a total assessment then for 8 years

of $9,423

and 15 years $11,011.

You can see divided out into the

repayment schedule. For 8 years this

would equal a 16 semi-annual

installments of $588.94.

And for 15 years 30 semi-annual

installments of $367.03.

All proof projects would be advertised

for public bid with the lowest and best

bid to be awarded the contract. The bids

may not be accepted if they are in

excess of the final hearing engineers

estimate.

The final schedule assessments would be

reduced pro rata by the difference

between the estimated cost and final

cost if the project ends up costing

less. And up front payments would

receive a refund in this case.

>> [snorts]

>> ORC 6137 requires all completed projects

to be placed onto drainage maintenance

with the purpose of maintenance being to

keep the project operating at its design

capacity. Maintenance funds are also

collected as a special assessment and

maintenance activities commonly include

inspections, seeding repairs, and

erosion control.

Maintenance assessments are determined

based on the final schedule of

construction assessments, and most of

our projects average between 2 and 1/2

to 5% annually for those collections.

The collection percentage can vary

annually depending on the maintenance

needs of the project, and drainage

maintenance is perpetual.

Going back to our amortization example,

our construction assessment example of

$7,450

times a 3% annual maintenance collection

plus the auditor's treasurer's fees

would equal a $227.96

annual maintenance assessment, and you

can see that equals $113.98

per half.

Cost benefit, the benefits of drainage

improvements exist for both agricultural

and residential parcels, with the

benefit to agricultural parcels being

realized by the increased yield as a

result of good drainage. Estimated yield

increases given the soils in the area

would average 46 bushels per acre for

corn and 14 bushels per acre for

soybeans given the appropriate drainage

improvements are in place.

Using a USDA USDA average crop price

from 2021 to 2025 of $4.99 per bushel

for corn and $12.26 per bushel for

soybeans, you can see our average

benefit uh for corn would be $42,694,

and for soybeans $31,295

producing an average annual benefit of

$37,309

assuming an equal distribution of corn

and soybeans.

Uh this would be a potential 20-year

return of $746,190.

These figures do not take into account

consideration of individual farm

management practices and are meant to

provide a broader overview of the

benefits of improved drainage.

Individual properties may see more or

less than the average benefits presented

based on a variety of factors including

their own individual farm management

practices, utilization of the improved

drainage, and seasonal fluctuations.

The provided examples do illustrate the

fact that good drainage is a key factor

in farm profitability and would reflect

positively when considering a

cost-benefit analysis for this

watershed.

It's fair to consider potential benefits

as potential losses if the system ceases

to function as a good and sufficient

outlet.

Benefits to resident residential parcels

focus on quality of life, neighborhood

perception, and home site sewage

treatment systems. A failed home site

sewage treatment system can cost $15,000

to repair or replace.

When looking at new developments, we

find that the developers average around

$16,000 per lot to provide adequate

drainage outlets. With two residential

parcels in the watershed, this equals

$32,000

potential benefits. Excuse me.

Project sections.

Section 1 can be approved independently

of Section 2.

Section 1 must be approved to approve

accepting Section 2 onto drainage

maintenance.

The approval of Section 1 would include

accepting portions of the infrastructure

within Section 1 onto drainage

maintenance in its current condition,

and denial of Section 1 necessitates

denial of Section 2.

If the decision is to deny, it is

recommended to distribute the costs

incurred to this point to the leaning

owners in the same ratio as determined

by the final schedule of assessments.

These estimated costs to date equal

$17,500.

Engineer's recommendation.

Based on all of the information gathered

and generated, I believe this project as

proposed is technically feasible and

would serve as an adequate outlet for

the drainage needs of the watershed.

Furthermore, the parcel assessments for

this project are within the range of

assessments that can be expected for a

project of this scope. The testimony

brought to the Board of Commissioners by

the landowners as to whether the

benefits of this of this project exceed

the cost should be given significant

consideration in the decision to move

forward with this project.

>> Okay. Thank you, Brent.

Um open up for questions from the

commission.

>> I have no questions.

>> No.

>> Um I got a couple questions for you,

Brent. Um in the original uh phase or

the first hearing, the land in the

project was 448 acres. Now it's 200 and

249 acres. What what happened in the

>> Um

there there was a sub-watershed that was

included in the larger watershed at that

point. Um that by request of the the

petitioners was removed and and wasn't

included in this final proposal.

>> Okay.

Um

the

Uh

you probably can't consider the role I

don't

know if that's the right way to phrase

it. There is development you know,

moving that direction. Can

that be considered in your report and

your your findings?

>> Um the the

No, I mean the drainage system is

designed per our normal

design parameters, which we feel

adequately

sizes a system to accept drainage coming

out of development that it has been

properly engineered for the the release

rates and even though that

development is not in the county, it's

in the city of Delaware.

I am familiar with uh

I'll say superficially familiar with the

city of Delaware's design standards and

they are very close to the county. So,

I'm confident that the system as

designed would handle that.

>> Okay.

Um one other question. The the cost in

the in the first hearing the estimated

cost was roughly the same as in the

final hearing, but you subtracted 200

and some acres.

>> Uh is remember the first hearing

estimate was done pre-COVID.

>> Yeah, I'm assuming that's cost

construction escalate inflation.

>> Yes.

>> Okay. Just want to make make sure it

sound seem like that's what it was the

case.

Okay, I don't have any other questions.

So, at this point, we will open it up to

um

those wishing to testify in favor of the

project.

And I will ask anyone testifying to

stay take an oath.

Again, you don't have to testify,

but certainly want to encourage those

who who are interested to testify if

they want to.

All right.

Last chance for those wishing to testify

in favor of the project.

All right. We will now turn it over to

those who wish to testify in opposition

to the project.

I'll ask you to come up to the podium,

identify yourself, your address, parcel

number [snorts] if you can, and then we

will

uh swear you in.

>> My name is Ron Graham.

Um we're one of the stakeholders who I'm

representing

uh my parents

as being a lease holder of the largest

stakeholder and the

Zurbuch Heath.

>> Okay.

Um

do you know the parcel or number on the

map?

If you don't, address is good.

>> it's number three on your map.

And

um the Graham family is the one that you

received the letter for, too, on

>> Right. And you were the originator of

the original petition.

>> Correct.

>> Yes, sir.

>> Mr. Graham indicated he was representing

his his parents. I had a conversation

with an attorney who represented the

Grahams and he can testify as a tenant

because that's your interest in the

property is as a tenant farmer for the

property, but he cannot represent his

parents. We will just take into

consideration the written testimony that

they provided.

>> Okay. Okay.

Um

could that be read?

That letter?

>> If the commissioners want to

If you want to read the the letter into

the record, you could do that, but I

mean it's already in the record. I think

>> We have it.

>> Yeah, we have it. We read it.

>> it.

Yeah.

>> Um

So,

um okay. The location

the address, do you have that address?

Just want to make sure I get the right

>> On your copy of the final hearing

report, there's a map. Number three is

the Graham

>> Number three, okay. Okay. We're good.

Um

So,

>> Yeah, it's number three.

>> Brad's going to pull up the map.

>> So, it's my understanding he cannot

testify.

>> That's my understanding, yes.

>> My understanding is he's a tenant A

tenant counts as an owner under the

revised code, so he can testify

>> Okay.

>> based on his own ownership interest in

the property.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> [clears throat]

>> All right. Well, I'll tell you what,

we'll we ahead with the testimony and

Brett, we we have maps in front of us

here. So, if you want to go ahead, Mr.

Graham, and

and uh

I will I will swear you in.

>> Okay.

>> Uh do you solemnly swear the testimony

you're about to give is the truth, the

whole truth, and nothing but the truth,

so help you God?

>> I do.

>> Okay.

Proceed.

>> So, um

I guess a lot has changed in 6 years, as

previously pointed out. Um

my family has gone to a lot of expense

to

um

make um

drainage improvements, as stated earlier

in um Brett's uh comments.

Um

we do not feel that uh

the benefit

um is worth the cost.

>> Okay.

Succinct. We appreciate that.

>> Yeah.

Um

just uh sidebar, um I did some

calculations.

We

um

I personally was involved with uh

clearing and snagging 1,800 ft of brush

and disposing of that, and then there's

about 2,500 ft of main that we put in,

as well.

>> Okay.

Very good. Thank you.

>> Mr. Bean, for the benefit of those in

the room, I think it'd be helpful to

read Mr. Graham's letter.

>> Okay.

>> So, if I I read it, is that

>> Go go right ahead.

>> I'm going to read it for the record,

just so everybody has the same

information.

Uh

we received this uh Tuesday, July 12th,

2026.

Uh regarding Derby O'Keefe 265 Watershed

Range Improvement Petition. Delaware

County Commissioners,

unfortunately, we're unable to attend

the June 22nd, 2026 final hearing for

the Derby O'Keefe number 265 Watershed

Range Improvement Petition.

Our son, Ronald Graham, who is the

leasehold farmer for the subject subject

parcels will be there to speak on behalf

of our family.

At this stage, we no longer support the

Zerbe-O'Keefe number 265 watershed

drainage improvement petition and

request that the commissioners deny the

petition.

Based on the recommendation Delaware

County Engineer and the Delaware Soil

and Water Conservation District, we

believe that the cost to implement the

petition is too high. Additionally, in

the 5 years since the initial petition

was filed there has been significant

development near the watershed. At this

stage, we are concerned that development

pressure may continue, decreasing the

likelihood of a return on the investment

for the project from an agricultural

perspective. Sincerely, Gary and Linda

Graham.

>> Just thought it'd be helpful to have

that read read into the record. All

right.

>> Yeah. That's fine. That's fine. [snorts]

>> Uh very good.

We will continue with uh anyone wishing

to testify in opposition to the

to the petition.

All right.

Welcome, sir. If you could identify

yourself for the record.

>> Thomas Davis. Um 2061 State Route 521,

Elm Valley Farm.

Do you need the uh number

or not?

We have four parcels that are actually

in that watershed.

>> Okay.

All right. I will uh

>> 16, 17, 18, 19 on your map.

>> Yeah.

Total of 27.37

acres.

>> Okay. Let me swear you in.

Uh okay. Do you solemnly swear the

testimony you're about to give is the

truth, the whole truth, and nothing but

the truth, so help you God?

>> I do.

>> All right. Proceed.

>> Um

This came up several years ago. We've

been um

I can't say I'm for it. I can't say

against it. But right now, I'm probably

against it, but I have a lot more

questions about it. Um

One main thing is uh due to the that

some improvements to the east of us, we

have flooding now because a pump station

added to a drainage system, which is

totally illegal, which puts a lot more

water

when it's draining onto us. That's

dumped into a shallow ditch that

actually does drain through the woods.

And that's become an issue.

So,

basically, in the state of Ohio, that's

a civil matter has to go to court, so

that cost me money to take care of a

problem that somebody else created. Now,

this would cost us money, which would

probably

correct the problem of damage to our

property and everything else.

However, most of that um

um of the 21 acres

12 acres is woods, which we would

receive no benefit from drainage or

anything as far as that go. The woods

actually

is a benefit to the drainage cuz it

absorbs a lot of it. A lot of that pump

water does drain into the woods, and in

the woods in the dry time, the woods

takes it up and does it.

That tile for us

was uh fixed

uh which was then the Davies property,

which now is Wilcox, that corner

that crosses the railroad tracks, that

was fixed 8 10 years ago. We got

permission from the Davies farm to uh

replace that tile. It was all overgrown

and collapsed and everything. So, the

tile on us is working. We actually have

some field tile.

It's off it's draining real well

as far as what it can handle.

Granted the age of it and everything.

>> [clears throat]

>> Um the one other issue we

we have a problem with the easement

through the woods. I know um I talked to

Grant that um

it would have been a 150-ft easement

through the woods, which is totally

unacceptable for all the wood that's in

there and everything. So, that was one

of the big concerns.

Um

and along that line, as far as the

development, I can tell you in the next

50 years there will be no development on

that property.

So, it kind of stops where we're at.

So.

Just to let you know. So.

>> Okay.

>> That's all.

>> Okay. Very good. Thank you, sir.

All right. Others wishing to speak in

opposition?

Um again,

one more chance. Anyone else wishing to

speak in opposition?

Okay.

With that,

we will

look at comments from the commissioners

or

any any other

comments, approvals, etc.

>> I've heard nothing today that would make

me believe that we should continue move

forward on this petition. It would seem

to me that uh

the proper course of action would be to

uh

deny.

>> Deny.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah, that's that's where I am as well.

The costs have significantly escalated.

>> The

>> Um

and there is

some improvements that have been made in

the area to help the drainage side. I

guess that's that's where I am as well.

Okay, so now

we we close the hearing, Eric, or do we

address the exceptions or

>> I mean, if it's the the wish of the

board to deny the petition, the claims

to the exceptions would be moot. You

wouldn't need to deal with it.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> We'll note the time of the hearing

closing at 10:27.

>> Okay. I would ask you to read the

resolution to deny.

>> Resolution number 26-441

in the matter of the commissioners

setting aside the order for and

dismissing the petition for the Zerbe

O'Keefe number 265 watershed drainage

improvement project due to

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> All right, any well further discussion?

>> I just uh

give them the reasoning for this. Based

on the testimony I heard today, it is I

>> [snorts]

>> I can't support it and following the

criteria that we were asked to make our

decision based on

uh is the proposed improvement

necessary? I don't believe it is based

on what I heard.

Will the proposed improvement be

conducive to the public welfare? Same

thing. I don't believe it I won't

support it. And mainly because the pro-

proposed improvements will be

uh

greater than the benefits received and

on those bases I

I'm supporting the

uh conclusion I get to to remove the

resolution.

>> Okay. You wish me to vote on this?

>> All all the We received uh letters in

opposition to uh the They were people

who originally supported it including

the person who brought the uh petition

about. So uh No, I mean I I I agree

there's uh

no reason for us to move ahead. It does

not meet the criteria listed.

>> I agree it doesn't doesn't meet the

criteria.

Therefore,

um let's I think we're dis- done with

discussion. Jennifer, let's vote.

>> Vote on motion 26-441.

Mr. Merrill?

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Benton?

>> Aye.

>> Mrs. Lewis?

>> Aye.

>> Resolution number 26-442

in the matter of ordering that the cost

of the proceedings of the Zerbe O'Keefe

number 265 watershed drainage

improvement project including the cost

incurred by the board of commissioners,

the county engineer, and the Delaware

Soil and Water Conservation District in

making surveys, plans, reports, and

schedules We be distributed to the

landowners in the same ratio as

determined in the final estimated

assessments presented at the final

hearing.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? Any further discussion?

All those in favor? Let's vote,

Jennifer.

>> Vote on motion 26-442,

Mrs. Lewis.

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell.

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Batten.

>> Aye.

>> Okay. So, like we talked before, that

does make the exceptions dressing up to

be a moot point since we have denied the

petition going forward.

We do need to go into executive session

for a few topics.

>> session, resolution number 26-443,

in the matter of adjourning into

executive session for consideration of

employment and compensation of a public

employer, public official, to consider

the purchase of property for public

purposes, for pending or imminent

litigation, and to consider confidential

information related to economic

development.

>> So moved.

>> Second.

>> Discussion? Vote.

>> Vote on motion 26-443.

Mrs. Lewis.

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Merrell.

>> Aye.

>> Mr. Batten.

>> Aye.

>> All right, we're now in executive